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- Handling mid-project revisions for custom batch runs on 6061 aluminum1 replies · Selling & Business
I'm currently mid-production on a run of custom brackets using 1/4 inch 6061 plate on my Avid CNC. The client originally signed off on the DXF, but after seeing the first fixture-mounted prototype, they are asking to add countersinks and a chamfer on all internal edges. While these are minor adjustments in Fusion 360, it adds significant cycle time and requires a tool change to a 90-degree spot drill that wasn't in the original quote. I'm worried about the spindle hours and the extra handling for the flip-side operations. How are you guys structuring your quotes to account for these minor tweaks once the material is already on the bed? I want to keep the client happy for future assembly work, but I also can't eat the cost of the extra surfacing passes and manual deburring. Do you use a standard hourly rate for CAD revisions, or do you have a specific clause for tooling changes mid-production?
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team - Preventing rust bleed on raw mild steel signage — sealants vs clear powder2 replies · Finishing
I am finishing a set of large CNC-cut 10ga hot-rolled steel panels for an outdoor installation. The client wants to keep the natural dark mill scale look but needs them stabilized to prevent rust streaks on the concrete base. I am debating between a clear powder coat or using a chemical patina like Sculpt Nouveau followed by a solvent-based sealer. My concern with clear powder is the risk of spider-webbing oxidation underneath if the edges aren't rounded or if moisture gets trapped. If I switch to a simulated Cor-Ten look, does anyone have long-term data on Penatrol or Sharkhide for UV and moisture resistance in high-humidity regions? I need a solution that won't require quarterly maintenance.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team - Air assist nozzle geometry - seeking real world results on plywood charring1 replies · Laser Engraving
I am currently running an Xtool D1 Pro with the stock air assist kit, but I am still seeing more soot and charring on 3mm birch plywood than I would like. I have a 30L/min pump connected, but the airflow feels diffuse rather than targeted. I have seen several community designs on Thingiverse and some aftermarket machined nozzles that claim to provide a tighter laminar flow directly into the kerf. I am curious if anyone has A/B tested specific nozzle bore diameters or conical versus cylindrical internal geometries. I usually run at 10mm/s at 80% power for my cut passes. If switching to a needle-style nozzle or a high-pressure setup actually allows for cleaner cuts on the underside of Baltic birch, I am willing to modify the laser head housing to accommodate a new fitting.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team - Pushing minimum feature limits with 0.020 inch end mills in brass and wood2 replies · Maker Showcase
I have been testing some 0.023 inch micro end mills from Kyocera to do inlay work in stabilized maple burl. I am running an Avid PRO4848 with a 2.2kW spindle and struggling to find the balance between chip clearing and bit breakage. Current settings are 24,000 RPM at 15 IPM with a 0.005 inch depth of cut, but the bits seem to fatigue quickly. The goal is a brass logo inlay with line weights down to 0.01 inch. I am curious what the smallest detail you have successfully repeated is. Are you using localized air blasts or specialized lubricants for these sub-millimeter paths? I suspect my collet runout might be the bottleneck for anything smaller than this.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team - Listing photography: iPhone 15 Pro vs dedicated mirrorless for grain detail2 replies · Selling & Business
I have been using a Sony a6400 with a 35mm prime for my epoxy inlay coasters and walnut boards, but the workflow is slowing me down. Transferring SD cards and post-processing in Lightroom takes about 20 minutes per listing. I tried a test run with an iPhone 15 Pro using a basic ring light setup, but the auto-processing seems to blow out the texture on end-grain cuts and makes the Rubio Monocoat finish look plastic. Has anyone done a direct A/B test on conversion rates for high-end CNC work? I am wondering if the extra sensor depth from a real lens actually moves the needle on $200+ items or if customers just want to see the scale. I am currently debating if I should invest in a better macro lens or just refine the mobile lighting setup to minimize that digital over-processed look.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team - Learning the hard way: bit crashes and spindle clearance on my first CNC2 replies · Woodworking
Started on a Shapeoko 4 Pro last month and managed to snap a 1/4 inch Amana end mill within forty-eight hours. I was running a basic pocketing toolpath in 3/4 inch Baltic birch but didn't account for the clamp height in my CAM software. The g-code sent the spindle right through a steel strap clamp at 100 inches per minute. It was a loud reminder that digital models don't always match the physical reality of the machine bed. I fixed it by switching to low-profile nylon clamps and obsessively double-checking the rapid move heights in Carbide Create before hitting start. Now I keep the Z-clearance at least 10mm above the highest point on the workpiece. What was the first major error you had to troubleshoot during your first week of operation?
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#cnc-router - Upgrading stock OMTech air assist nozzles - what actually reduces charring on 3mm birch?1 replies · Laser
I've been running the stock air assist on my OMTech 60W for a few months, mostly cutting 3mm and 6mm birch plywood. I'm still seeing significant charring on the underside even with a 60L/min pump and the standard wide-bore nozzle. I'm looking at the Cloudray C-Series setup or possibly a custom machined nozzle with a tighter 1.5mm aperture to increase the PSI at the cut point. Has anyone seen a measurable difference in edge quality by switching to a high-pressure nozzle or a different focal length setup? I’m currently using a 2.0-inch lens but considering a 2.5-inch to get more clearance for the air stream. Most of my work is technical prototypes where clean edges matter more than speed.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#material-settings - Budget LED panel options for 20x20 shop - Barrina vs. Lithonia vs. others?1 replies · Community
I'm finally moving out of the basement and into a 20x20 garage space. Need to get the lighting sorted before I move the CNC and assembly benches in. Ceilings are only 9 feet, so I’m looking at flush-mount or thin LED panels to keep the clearance. I’ve seen those 4-foot Barrina shop lights all over YouTube, but I’m worried about the color rendering index (CRI) when I’m doing finishing work or checking grain patterns. Budget is around $300 total for the whole 400 square feet. I'm considering 5000K for clarity, but I don't want it to feel like a hospital. Has anyone used the 2x4 troffers from Home Depot or found a reliable bulk deal on Amazon that actually lasts longer than a year? Looking for something with decent diffusers so I don't get those harsh multi-point shadows on my workpieces.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#general-discussion - Managing mid-project design changes on custom walnut and steel furniture builds1 replies · Woodworking
I am currently finishing a live-edge black walnut table with a powder-coated steel base. The client originally wanted a simple matte finish, but now they are asking for integrated wireless chargers and a specific brand of epoxy infill for the knots halfway through the sanding phase. I am worried about recalculating the labor for the routing and wiring since the jig is already broken down. I use a Laguna SmartShop M and do not want to risk the alignment by resetting everything for a small add-on. How do you phrase the updated quote when a project shifts from a standard slab to something requiring more CNC time and wiring? I want to keep the relationship but my current hourly rate for CAD/CAM adjustments and additional tool changes is getting eaten up by these quick additions.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#wood-selection#signs#finishing - Pricing one-off CNC commissions — hourly shop rate versus per-job gut feeling1 replies · Selling Your Work
I’m struggling to nail down a consistent pricing structure for custom commissions on my Avid PRO4896. For standard batch items, I just use a 3x material cost or a fixed machine hour rate of $75/hr. However, for complex one-offs like topographic maps in 8/4 black walnut or custom aluminum brackets using Amana tool paths, the CAD/CAM time often dwarfs the actual spindle time. If I bill for every hour spent in Fusion 360, the price usually scares people off. Do you guys apply a different hourly rate for design work versus machine time, or do you just bake a flat consultation fee into the initial quote? I’ve been eating too much of the overhead on these unique builds. I'm curious if people are using specialized software for quoting or if a simple spreadsheet with a 20% buffer for unexpected tool wear and scrap is sufficient for low-volume artisan work.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#pricing - Small-batch 6061 production — what is your most consistent repeat item and why?2 replies · 3D Printing
I've been pulling consistent work doing custom suspension spacers from 6061-T6 plate for a local off-road shop. I'm using a 1/4 inch 3-flute ZrN coated end mill from Lakeshore Carbide, running at 12,000 RPM with a 0.003 IPT chip load. It’s a simple profile cut with a secondary operation for the counterbores, but the reliability of the order comes down to meeting their +/- 0.005 tolerance requirements for the bolt holes consistently across 50-piece batches. The margin is decent because the fixture plate is already dialed in and I can run them with minimal supervision. I’m curious what others are seeing as their bread-and-butter repeat items. Is it mostly decorative pieces for the public, or are you finding more success with small-batch industrial components where the client just needs the part to spec every month?
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#stl-files - Snapping carbide and burning Baltic birch — my first week CNC oversights2 replies · Woodworking
Blew through a pack of Amana 1/4 inch downcut bits on my first project because I trusted the default tool library for 18mm plywood. I did not account for the adhesive density in this specific batch, and the heat buildup charred the edges before the bit snapped during a 3D contour pass. The friction was high enough that the spindle started losing steps on the Y-axis. The fix was increasing the feed rate to 110 ipm and dropping the Makita router to setting 3 to reduce the chipload. I also started using a dedicated spoilboard surfacing routine to ensure my Z-zero was consistent across the entire 4x4 area. What specific tool or material setting caught you off guard when you first started?
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#cnc-router#wood-selection - Custom air assist nozzles for CO2 lasers — worth the swap from stock?1 replies · Laser
Dealing with charring on 3mm Baltic birch and some acrylic flashback issues using the stock brass nozzle on a 60W Omtech. The integrated air assist seems to diffuse too early, and I am losing power through the focal point due to debris buildup on the lens. I have been looking at the Cloudray composite nozzles or potentially machining a high-pressure pointed tip to get the air stream closer to the kerf. If anyone has switched to a longer, tapered nozzle or used a dedicated compressor instead of the stock pump, did it actually improve the cut quality on deeper passes? I am trying to minimize post-processing sanding on delicate fretwork. Curious if a 2mm bore vs 4mm bore makes a tangible difference when running at 25-30 psi.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#material-settings#co2 - Compressor CFM requirements for simultaneous plasma and CO2 laser air assist1 replies · Laser
Looking to upgrade my shop air to handle a Hypertherm Powermax 45XP and a 100W CO2 laser with high-pressure air assist running at the same time. The Hypertherm needs about 6 SCFM at 90 psi, and the laser assist pulls another 3-4 CFM when I am cutting thick acrylic or plywood. Currently using a 30-gallon single stage that cannot keep up, leading to significant moisture issues and motor thermal shutdown after 15 minutes of runtime. I am considering a 60 or 80-gallon vertical tank with a two-stage pump. Does anyone run a similar setup on a single 5HP motor, or am I better off looking at a small rotary screw for production work? I am worried about the duty cycle on reciprocating pumps when both the plasma table and laser are hitting the tank simultaneously during long nesting jobs.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#co2#material-settings - Comparing Shapeoko 4 vs Genmitsu for light aluminum and hardwood prototyping under $1.5k1 replies · Woodworking
Looking to add a desktop mill to the shop for small batch sign work and some occasional 1/8 inch brass inlay. Budget is firm at $1500 for the machine and basic workholding. I have looked at the Shapeoko 4 and the Sienci LongMill, but I am worried about the footprint on my current bench. Accuracy is more important to me than speed since most projects are under 10 inches. Does anyone have experience with the Genmitsu 4040-PRO or the 3030-RENO for non-ferrous metals? I am curious about the rigidity of the lead screw vs belt drive systems at this price point. I plan to use Fusion 360 for CAM and mainly cut walnut and 6061 aluminum. Any specific spindle upgrades I should account for in the initial budget to avoid chatter on the aluminum passes?
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#wood-selection#cnc-router#signs - Consumable wear patterns on 14ga steel: Seeking better life at 45 amps1 replies · Plasma & Metal
I've been running a batch of 14ga cold rolled sheet on my Hypertherm Powermax 45XP and I'm blowing through nozzles faster than expected. I’m currently using standard 45A shielded consumables, running at 220 ipm with a 0.06 inch torch height. Air is dried through a refrigerated chiller and a 3-stage filter, so moisture shouldn't be the issue. I'm seeing the orifice oval out after about 150 pierces, which feels low for this gauge. Are people seeing better results with the FineCut setup for 14ga, or should I stick to the standard 45A and just tweak my pierce delay? I'm at 0.4 seconds right now. If there's a specific brand of aftermarket electrodes that actually hold the hafnium core longer without the premium cost, I'm interested in hearing your experience.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#steel - Best sources for small quantity 6061-T6 sheet without $100+ minimum orders?1 replies · Community
I am finishing up a series of base plates for a custom fixture on a Shapeoko HDM and need about 4 square feet of 1/4 inch 6061-T6. Local industrial suppliers in my area have switched to a $250 minimum order for walk-ins, and the shipping on 12x24 sheets from McMaster-Carr or Online Metals is killing the margin on these small batch runs. Does anyone have a reliable source that does decent flat-rate shipping or has a lower threshold for free shipping? I have looked at eBay drops but the thickness tolerances are often inconsistent. I need flat stock that won't require heavy surfacing before starting adaptive clearing paths with a 1/4 inch O-flute.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#general-discussion - Troubleshooting slag on Hypertherm 45XP — when air pressure isn't the fix2 replies · Plasma & Metal
Running a Hypertherm Powermax 45XP on a CrossFire Pro table. Cutting 10-gauge hot rolled steel and getting heavy, stubborn slag on the bottom edges. I am keeping my air at a steady 90-100 psi through a refrigerated dryer, so I do not think moisture or pressure drops are the culprit. Consumables are relatively fresh, maybe two hours of arc time on them. I have tried bumping the feed rate up from 120 ipm to 140 ipm, but the dross just gets harder to chip off. At lower speeds, it is thick but peels easier. Wondering if torch height or pierce delay could be affecting the puddle enough to cause this much buildup. What else should I be checking besides just cranking the PSI?
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#steel - Photo engraving on 80W CO2 — wood species and surface prep for high contrast2 replies · Laser
I am struggling with inconsistent results on birch plywood when running photos through LightBurn. The grain variance often washes out fine details in faces, even with the Jarvis dither. I have tried masking and different DPI settings, but the results always look a bit muddy after the second pass or cleaning. I am looking for a wood species that holds fine detail without heavy pitch or sap causing smoke staining. Has anyone had better luck with solid maple or basswood? I am currently using a Ruida controller on an 80W tube, running around 250mm/s at 15% power for most of my tests on 3mm stock.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#engraving#co2#lightburn - Handling revision requests on 3D relief carvings and custom hardwood commissions2 replies · Woodworking
I am currently finishing a set of live-edge black walnut slabs for a dining table where the client just asked to add epoxy inlay branding and an under-mounted wireless charger after we already ran the roughing passes on the Avid PRO6024. This is the third time a quick addition has popped up mid-workflow on a custom piece. I find it difficult to transition from the creative design phase to the production phase without the client thinking every detail is still up for debate. Does anyone here use a formal sign-off document once the VCarve Pro or Fusion 360 files are finalized? I am struggling to balance being accommodating with the reality of resetting offsets and recalculating toolpaths for 1/8 inch ballnose bits once the stock is already indexed on the table.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#carving#wood-selection#finishing - Scaling compressor CFM for simultaneous plasma cutting and CO2 laser air assist2 replies · Laser
I am currently running a Hypertherm Powermax 45XP on a 4x4 table and adding a 100W CO2 laser with high-pressure air assist to the same shop footprint. The Hypertherm requires approximately 6 CFM at 90 PSI for optimal cut quality, and the laser assist pulls another 2 to 3 CFM through a 4mm nozzle to keep acrylic edges clear. I am looking at a 60-gallon Quincy or an Ingersoll Rand SS5, but I am concerned about the duty cycle when both machines are running long nested files simultaneously. Most of my production involves 10ga mild steel on the plasma and 1/4 inch plywood on the laser. If I am running a 20-minute cut and the laser is engraving at the same time, will a 15-18 CFM pump maintain head pressure without overheating? I want to avoid the cost of a rotary screw if a solid reciprocating unit can handle the volume.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#co2#material-settings#engraving - Dross issues on 3/16 hot rolled with Hypertherm 45XP - is it always air?1 replies · Plasma & Metal
I am running a Hypertherm Powermax 45XP on a Langmuir CrossFire Pro and consistently getting heavy underside dross on 3/16 hot rolled steel. My air pressure is dialed in at 90 PSI at the compressor and stays at 75 PSI at the machine while flowing, utilizing a refrigerated dryer to keep the line dry. Consumables are standard shielded parts, and I am sticking strictly to the book specs for amperage and pierce delay. Even with the air treatment, I am seeing that stubborn high-speed slag that requires a grinder to remove. I tried bumping the pressure up to 85 PSI without success. Could cut height or travel speed be the primary culprit here despite the air being stable? Currently cutting at 55 IPM at 45 amps with a 0.06 inch torch height.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#steel - Best sources for 6061-T6 sheet stock in small quantities without the cut fees?2 replies · Community
I am burning through 1/8 inch and 1/4 inch 6061-T6 on my Shapeoko 4 Pro and getting killed on shipping from OnlineMetals. Their cut fees on custom sizes are starting to eat into the margin on the bracket sets I am running. I typically need 12x12 or 12x24 sheets, but the local industrial suppliers like Ryerson or Alro won't even look at me for orders under a $500 minimum. Has anyone found a reliable regional distributor or a specific eBay storefront that does not ship warped plate or overcharge for freight? I am trying to keep material costs down for a new batch of anodized control panels. Any tips on local scrap yards that actually stock clean drops would also be appreciated.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#general-discussion - Methodology for measuring TIR on ER20 collets and router spindles2 replies · Woodworking
I am trying to track down a chatter issue on my Avid setup with the 4hp spindle. I suspect the collet might be the culprit after a recent bit snap, but I am struggling to get repeatable readings with my dial indicator. I have been mounting the indicator base to the gantry and taking readings on the internal taper of the spindle first, then on a precision ground pin held in the collet. Are you guys measuring runout at the nut, on the shank right at the collet face, or an inch down the tool? Also, how are you ensuring the spindle isn't shifting slightly while rotating it by hand? I am seeing about .0015 inches on the pin but only .0002 on the spindle taper itself, which makes me think my collet or nut is the bottleneck.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#cnc-router - Post your first-week shop disasters - the ones that actually taught you something1 replies · Plasma & Metal
My first week on the Shapeoko 4, I tried clearing a pocket in 6061 aluminum using a standard 1/4 inch upcut wood bit because I didn't want to wait for the O-flute delivery. I completely ignored the chipload and ran it at 18000 RPM with a slow feed rate. The aluminum galled almost instantly, welded itself to the carbide, and snapped the bit before I could hit the E-stop. I realized then that friction is the enemy in non-ferrous work. Switching to Amana single-flute cutters and using a light mist of isopropyl alcohol made the difference. Now I keep a log of feed rates for every material change to avoid guessing. What was the specific failure that forced you to actually learn your machine's limits?
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#welding#aluminum - Cloudray vs. generic air assist nozzles for CO2 laser plywood cutting2 replies · Laser
I have been running the stock nozzle on a 60W Omtech for six months, but I am struggling with consistent charring on 3mm birch ply despite bumping the compressor to 30psi. The stock nozzle bore seems too wide to focus the airflow properly at the kerf, and I am getting significant soot buildup on the underside of the optics. I am looking at the Cloudray high-pressure nozzles or potentially machining a custom cone with a 1.5mm aperture. Has anyone switched to a restricted-bore nozzle and seen a noticeable improvement in cut cleanliness on organics, or does it just create turbulence issues that mess with the focal point?
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#co2#material-settings - Scaling batch production on the shapeoko - what is your highest volume repeat item?2 replies · Woodworking
I have been running a set of hard maple serving boards with deep juice grooves and have sold about 200 units this year. I am using a 1/4 inch Whiteside downcut bit for the perimeter and a 3/4 inch core box bit for the grooves, running at 80 inches per minute. The repeat orders seem to come from the consistency of the grain matching and the food-safe mineral oil finish. I am looking to transition to something more compact that utilizes offcuts from my furniture builds. What is the specific product you find yourself making once a week? I am curious if it is a utility item or something decorative, and what your cycle time looks like per part. I am trying to minimize tool changes to get my touch-off time down.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#finishing#wood-selection - Pushing the limits on micro-carving — what is your smallest reliable detail?2 replies · Woodworking
I have been experimenting with some 0.015 inch tapered ball nose bits from PreciseBits to do some inlay work in stabilize maple burl. I am hitting a wall with chip evacuation even with a dedicated air blast, and I am starting to see some deflection when I try to clear pockets deeper than 0.040 inches. I am running a 2.2kw spindle at 24,000 RPM, but I think my runout might be the limiting factor for these tiny geometries. What is the smallest feature you have successfully cut without breaking bits or losing definition? I am curious if people are having better luck with high-speed air spindles or if it comes down to specialized tool coatings like Amorphous Diamond when working with abrasive hardwoods.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#carving#wood-selection#cnc-router - Sub-$1500 desktop CNC for small batch hardwood and brass inlays2 replies · Woodworking
I am looking to pull the trigger on a desktop mill primarily for 2D profile cutting in 3/4 inch walnut and some light engraving in C360 brass. I have about 18 inches of bench depth to work with and a budget of $1500 including the initial tooling. I was looking at the Shapeoko 4 and the Sienci LongMill, but I am worried about the rigidity of the V-wheels when pushing through denser hardwoods. Are there any machines in this price range that utilize linear rails instead of wheels, or am I better off buying a lighter frame and upgrading the spindle to something like a 1.2kw water-cooled unit to reduce vibration? I need to hold tolerances within .005 for the brass inlays to seat correctly without a massive glue gap.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#wood-selection#cnc-router - Longevity of Owatrol vs clear powder coat for 10ga mild steel landscape screens2 replies · Plasma & Metal
Working on a set of decorative privacy screens cut from 10ga mild steel on a Langmuir Crossfire. The client wants the industrial look of raw steel without it bleeding rust onto a white concrete patio. I have used Owatrol Oil in the past, but it seems to require a re-coat every 12 months in coastal humidity. I am considering a textured matte clear powder coat, but I am worried about undercut corrosion if the edges aren't perfectly radius-ground after the plasma cut. Has anyone had success with cold bluing or a specific chemical patina that can be sealed once and last 3+ years outdoors? Moving to Cor-Ten isn't an option for this budget.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#powder-coating#steel#plasma-cnc - Rigid packaging for 12ga plasma cut signs — preventing transit bends1 replies · Plasma & Metal
I am starting to ship more custom 24 inch house numbers and gates inserts cut from 12ga hot rolled steel on my crossfire pro. The issue is that even with heavy cardboard, UPS manages to tweak the corners or bend thinner script lettering during transit. I am tired of filing claims and refabricating pieces because a driver tossed a heavy box on top of my flat packs. Has anyone found a source for affordable honeycomb cardboard inserts or rigid backing that does not kill the margin on a fifty dollar part? I have looked at 1/4 inch plywood as a stiffener but the weight jump pushes the shipping cost into the next tier. Wondering what you guys use for internal bracing to keep flat work from becoming a taco.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#plasma-cnc#steel - Reliable 6061-T6 sheet sourcing for small runs without the high cut fees1 replies · Plasma & Metal
I am looking for a better source for 6061 aluminum sheet in the 0.125 to 0.250 inch range. My local steel yard has a 500 dollar minimum for delivery, and the 'hobbyist' online shops are charging nearly double the market rate per square foot once you factor in their shipping and handling. I am mostly running these on a Laguna Swift vacuum table, so flat stock is a requirement. Does anyone have a regional supplier in the Midwest that handles smaller orders without the massive setup fees for custom dimensions? I am trying to avoid stocking full 4x8 sheets due to space constraints, but the premium on pre-cut blanks is killing my margins on these custom enclosure jobs.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#steel#aluminum - Cleaning soot off laser-engraved walnut without bleaching the grain2 replies · Laser
I am running a batch of 8oz walnut flasks on a 60W CO2 laser and the char buildup in the deep engravings is becoming a problem. I usually hit them with 91% IPA and a microfiber, but on this darker walnut, it is leaving a grayish residue that dulls the natural luster even after oiling. Sanding is not an option because of the fine detail in the vector work. Has anyone tried using blue painter's tape or a specific transfer paper that doesn't leave adhesive residue in the grain? I need a way to lift the soot out of the recesses without stripping the oils or having to re-sand the entire surface. Settings are currently 300mm/s at 25% power, 300 DPI.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#engraving#co2 - Switching from conversion gun to HVLP turbine for waterborne clears — worth the spend?1 replies · 3D Printing
I have been running an Iwata LPH-400 off my 60-gallon compressor for furniture pieces, but moisture management is becoming a headache during long runs of General Finishes High Performance. Even with a refrigerated dryer and a 3-stage filter at the drop, I still catch occasional blushing or craters when the compressor cycles hard. I am looking at the Fuji Spray Q5 Platinum or an Apollo Power Series to get away from the shop air supply entirely. Does the heated air from a 5-stage turbine actually help with flow-out on waterborne topcoats, or am I just trading moisture issues for dry spray problems? I am mostly spraying flat panels and Baltic birch cabinetry. I need to know if the transfer efficiency and lack of oil contamination out-weighs the noise and the proprietary hose setup.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#stl-files - Methodology for measuring TIR on ER20 collets vs cheap import nuts1 replies · Woodworking
I am trying to track down a chatter issue on my Avid CNC with the 4HP spindle. Using a Mitutoyo 0.0005 inch test indicator, I am seeing significant variance depending on how I seat the nut. When I measure the inner taper of the spindle itself, it is dead on, but once the collet and a 1/2 inch tool blank are installed, the runout jumps to nearly .003 inches at the shank. Are you guys measuring off a precision ground pin or just the shank of a high-quality endmill? I am wondering if the issue is the actual collet seat or if these generic replacement nuts are not concentric enough to pull the collet into the taper evenly. I have tried cleaning the threads and the mating surfaces with solvent, but the deviation remains inconsistent between tool changes.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#cnc-router#signs - Minimum feature size for inlay work on a desktop gantry mill2 replies · Woodworking
I have been pushing a nomad 3 to see how much detail I can get away with for some brass inlay work in ebony. I am currently using a 0.010 inch 2-flute carbide endmill from Harvey Tool, running at 24k RPM with a 2 IPM feed rate. The clearing is clean, but I am seeing some slight deflection when hitting the tighter radii, even with a 0.001 inch optimal load. Has anyone successfully gone smaller than a ten-thou cutter on a non-industrial machine? I am looking at some 0.005 inch micro-drills for corner picking, but I am worried the runout on a standard spindle will just snap them instantly. Curious what your floor is for reliable, repeatable detail before the physics of the tool just give up.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#cnc-router - Optimizing air assist on Xtool D1 Pro - stock vs cloudray nozzle1 replies · Laser
I have been running the stock air assist on my D1 Pro for a few months, mostly cutting 3mm and 6mm birch ply. The charring is still heavier than I would like on the underside, even with the compressor dialed up to 30 PSI. It feels like the stock nozzle geometry causes too much turbulence or pressure drop before it hits the focal point. Has anyone switched to the Cloudray universal nozzles or a custom 3D printed housing with a copper tip? I am looking for a more laminar flow to keep the lens cleaner and get tighter cuts on 1/4 inch stock. If you have a specific nozzle diameter that improved your kerf consistency at lower feed rates, I would appreciate the specs.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#material-settings - Consumable life for production 14ga cold rolled — Hypertherm vs aftermarket2 replies · Plasma & Metal
Running a Powermax 45XP on a Precision Plasma table. I am doing large production runs of 14ga cold rolled brackets and I am burning through 45A nozzles faster than expected. I am currently using genuine Hypertherm consumables, running 75 PSI at the back of the unit with a refrigerated dryer and a 3-stage motor guard filter. I am getting about 400 pierces before the orifice starts to oval and cut quality on the trailing edge falls off. I am cutting at 160 IPM with a 0.06 inch pierce height and 0.5 second delay. Is anyone seeing better longevity with the FineCut consumables for 14ga, or is there a specific aftermarket brand like Copperhead that holds up better to high pierce counts? I need to get through a full 4x8 sheet without a mid-run nozzle swap.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#plasma-cnc - High-volume SKU analysis - what is your most consistent repeat seller?1 replies · Woodworking
I am looking at my Q3 data and my most consistent mover is still a simple 6061 aluminum EDC tray milled with a 1/4 inch single-flute upcut. It is a 12-minute cycle time on my Shapeoko HDM, but the volume stays steady because it hits a specific price point for desktop organizers. I am trying to figure out if it is the material finish or just the utility that keeps people coming back. I want to know which of your products actually gets reordered by the same customers or wholesale accounts. Is it a specific hardwood species, a powder-coated finish, or a certain mechanical function? I am considering moving away from one-off commissions to focus on these high-repeat files but need to gauge what actually scales without constant manual finishing.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#wood-selection#cnc-router - Weathering mild steel for outdoor installs — Owatrol vs clear powder longevity?2 replies · Plasma & Metal
Working on a series of 3/16 inch A36 mild steel privacy screens for a client in a high-humidity coastal zone. They want a darkened, aged look but are worried about rust bleed onto the limestone patio below. I have looked at using a Birchwood Casey Presto Black patina followed by a high-solids clear coat, but I am concerned about UV stability and delamination over time. Has anyone had success using Owatrol Oil as a stand-alone sealer for raw steel outdoors, or does it require constant reapplication? The alternative is a textured bronze powder coat to mimic the look, but I lose the authentic metal variation. If anyone has experience with the failure rate of solvent-based clears versus architectural grade powder on laser-cut edges, let me know.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#steel#powder-coating#patina - Chasing dross on 3/16 HR steel — is there more to it than just PSI?2 replies · Plasma & Metal
I am getting heavy bottom-side slag on 3/16 hot rolled steel using a Hypertherm Powermax 45XP. Cutting at 45 amps with standard consumables, book specs say 90 IPM at 75 PSI flowing. Air is run through a refrigerated dryer and a 3-stage filter bank, so moisture should not be the culprit. The dross is thick and requires a cold chisel to pop off, which usually points to a low-speed issue, but if I push it to 100 IPM, I start losing the cut in the corners. Could this be a torch height control issue or am I looking at a bad batch of nozzles? I have checked the ground clamp and it is directly on the workpiece. I am curious if anyone has found a sweet spot for this gauge that deviates significantly from the manual specs.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#steel - Weathering outdoor mild steel — penetrol vs specialty clear coat vs forced patina2 replies · Plasma & Metal
I am finishing a series of 11ga mild steel privacy panels cut on a Langmuir CrossFire Pro. The client wants a raw industrial look but the site is within five miles of the coast, so bare metal will turn to flake rust within months. I am considering a forced vinegar and salt patina followed by a matte clear, or just hitting them with a heavy coat of Penetrol. Does anyone have long-term data on how Penetrol holds up against UV and salt spray compared to something like a Sculpt Nouveau clear? I want to avoid powder coating if possible because the local shop cannot guarantee against spider-webbing under the film if the substrate isn't perfectly sandblasted.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#steel#patina#powder-coating - Plasma cutting 14ga hot rolled - what consumables are actually holding up?2 replies · Plasma & Metal
I am running a Hypertherm Powermax 45XP on a Precision Plasma table doing production runs of decorative 14ga steel. Currently using the standard 45A shielded consumables but the nozzle orifice is blowing out faster than expected after about 300 pierces. Air quality is handled by a three-stage refrigerated dryer and a Motor Guard filter, so I do not think moisture is the primary culprit. Are any of you having better luck with FineCut consumables for 14ga or do you stick with the standard 45A setup? I am running 150 ipm at 45 amps with a 0.06 inch pierce height. I need to get through at least two sheets before a swap to keep the margin where it needs to be.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#plasma-cnc#steel - Early CNC crashes and tool paths - let's see the scrap bin from week one2 replies · Woodworking
My first week with the Shapeoko 4 was a disaster because I didn't understand the difference between climb and conventional milling on plywood. I tried to push a 1/4 inch compression bit through 18mm birch ply at 100 inches per minute with a full depth pass. I ended up snapping the bit and gouging my MDF wasteboard because the machine deflected under the load. It took me a while to realize that multiple shallow passes and checking my feed speeds against a chip load calculator were mandatory, not optional. I am curious what everyone else messed up when they were first starting out. Did you forget to zero your Z-axis or maybe mess up the workholding on a specific material like HDPE or aluminum? Looking to see what the common failure points are for new setups.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#wood-selection - Reliable sources for small-batch 6061-T6 sheet without the OnlineMetals markup1 replies · Plasma & Metal
I am looking for a consistent source for 6061-T6 aluminum sheet, specifically in the .125 and .250 inch range. My local supplier just implemented a 250 dollar minimum order which is killing my margins on one-off brackets and prototyping. I have been using OnlineMetals and McMaster-Carr for quick turnarounds, but the shipping costs on 24x24 plates are getting ridiculous. Does anyone have a regional supplier in the Midwest that handles drops or small-cut orders without the massive retail markup? I am trying to keep the cost per square foot down so I can actually stay competitive on small-batch CNC milling and laser jobs. I am open to buying secondary or mill-finish if the price is right.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#metal-art#aluminum - Pushing minimum feature size on desktop mills for brass inlay work1 replies · Plasma & Metal
I have been experimenting with some jewelry-scale brass inlay work using a Nomad 3 and I am hitting a wall at the 0.3mm mark. I am running 0.010 inch two-flute endmills from Kyocera at 24k RPM, but the deflection is killing my tolerances on tight radii. Even with a 0.02mm optimal load and very conservative plunges, I am seeing some chatter marks that require too much hand-finishing. I am curious what the smallest bit size you have successfully run without snapped tools or excessive runout. If anyone is getting clean detail below 0.5mm in non-ferrous metals, I would like to know your stepover settings and if you are using a specific mist coolant setup to keep the chips from recutting in those tiny channels.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#metal-art - Optimizing air assist for CO2 lasers: DIY vs aftermarket nozzle designs2 replies · Laser
I have been running a standard gold-colored nozzle on my 60W OMTech for a few months, mostly cutting 3mm and 6mm Baltic birch. The stock setup seems to create too much turbulence, leading to charring on the underside even with a honeycomb bed. I am looking to switch to a high-pressure nozzle with a more tapered bore to see if I can get cleaner edges and faster pierce times. Has anyone seen a measurable difference between the Cloudray C-Series versus a custom turned brass nozzle? I am running a 1/4 HP oil-less compressor with a moisture trap at 20-30 PSI. If you upgraded, did you have to adjust your focal height or did the narrower nozzle bore cause any alignment issues with the beam path?
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#co2#material-settings - Managing scope creep on live-edge slab commissions without losing the margin1 replies · Woodworking
I am currently finishing a walnut dining table on the Laguna SmartShop. The client originally signed off on a simple Rubio Monocoat finish, but now they are asking for black epoxy resin fills in hairline checks that weren't visible until the first surfacing pass. They are also requesting a custom C-channel inlay for stability after seeing a YouTube video, which wasn't in the initial quote or the CAD drawing. I want to keep the shop schedule moving but these 'minor' additions are eating my labor hours and bit life on the 1/4 inch end mills. How are you guys phrasing the change-order conversation so it sounds like a professional requirement rather than a price hike? I am trying to avoid the awkwardness of renegotiating mid-build while the slab is already on the vac table.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#wood-selection#finishing#cnc-router - Removing walnut char from 80W CO2 deep engraves without grain wash2 replies · Laser
I am running a batch of 1/4 inch black walnut coasters on an Boss LS-1630. To get the depth the client wants, I am hitting it with 45% power at 350mm/s, which is leaving significant soot and resin blowback around the edges. Usually I would just hit it with a random orbital sander at 220 grit, but these have fine vector linework that I do not want to blur or fill with dust. I tried a light wipe with 90% IPA but it seems to pull the natural oils out and leaves a gray, bleached ring around the engraving. Masking with high-tack paper helps some, but the smoke still seeps under on the longer burns. Is there a solvent or mechanical approach that cleans the carbon without killing the wood color before I apply the Rubio Monocoat finish?
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#engraving#co2 - Air assist nozzle geometry for K40 upgrades - conical vs straight bore?2 replies · Laser
I am looking to replace the stock acrylic air assist head on my K40. I have been running a basic aquarium pump but just switched to a 60W electromagnetic compressor. The issue is that my current nozzle seems to create a lot of turbulence, and I am seeing charring on 3mm birch ply even with the pressure cranked up to 20 psi. I am looking for feedback on whether a long-neck conical nozzle actually helps with laminar flow or if it is just marketing. I am specifically looking at the Cloudray C-Series or potentially machining my own out of aluminum. If anyone has seen a measurable difference in kerf width or bottom-side soot after switching nozzle styles, please let me know.
started by Crafters Market Workshop Team#material-settings